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Sept. 2, 2022

Episode 7 - Santa Catalina Island

Episode 7 - Santa Catalina Island

Just 32 miles off the SoCal west coast is Santa Catalina Island. If you didn't know any better, you could swear your 70 minute boat ride brought you to the other side of the world to explore a Greek Island. Such is the vibe you'll get on Catalina, with no shortage of things to do from hiking, museums, gardens, restuarants, shopping, beaches, ziplining, backcountry tours, snorkeling, scuba diving or exploring on your own in rented golf carts and e-bikes. Let's explore all there is to do here on our own little slice of the Mediterranean.

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:09.679 Well, how do you folks, and good morning, afternoon or evening, 2 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:14.679 wherever and whenever you may be listening. My name is Tim and welcome to 3 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:19.879 one day in so cal. Whether you've lived here your entire life or visiting 4 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:23.960 from across the world, whether you only have one day in so cal or 5 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.199 one month, I want to share some of the coolest, most fun and 6 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:32.079 most unique things to do right here in southern California, whether that's solo or 7 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.840 with friends and family. So join me on my next adventure and hopefully yours. 8 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:49.000 Right now on one day in so cal. Welcome to episode seven of 9 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:55.359 the one day in Socal podcast. It's Friday, September two and I am 10 00:00:55.359 --> 00:01:00.520 recording from beautiful right with California. Visit me on the web one day in 11 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.959 socal dot com, one day in social dot com, for the latest episodes, 12 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:11.319 travelog videos, interactive map, social media links and more. This week 13 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.719 I took the treacherous thirty M journey, as the crow flies, across the 14 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.680 dangerous waters that is the San Petro Channel. My destination was the mysterious Greek 15 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.920 island of Catalina, and I was carried full selle aboard the former corn table 16 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:30.959 ship turned Athenian Ferry Express jet cat the early morning crossing was clouded by heavy 17 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.959 marine layer clouds. Yet we had fair winds and following seas for the mostly 18 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:40.519 calm journey, guided by pods of bottle notes and Pacific White sanded dolphins. 19 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:46.760 Catalina appeared almost out of nowhere through the dense fog, a looming dark mass 20 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:51.439 in a blanket of white and gray. Our captain was a skilled mariner family 21 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:55.159 told a great line of officers that achieved victory at the Great Naval Battle of 22 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.680 Sally Nous, and managed to dark us safely to the Hustle and bustle at 23 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:04.519 the at the Avylon, largest city, on Catalina. As soon as I 24 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.520 get boarded straight away I ventured through the beach side markets far up into a 25 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:14.360 protected valley featuring a beautiful botanical garden of Nata plants that was home to the 26 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:20.159 temple of Wrigley, Greek God and Patriot saint of Catalani. I prayed to 27 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.680 J W Rigley, thanked him for a safe crossing. The Chicago cubs, 28 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.960 of course, and offered him a stick of Wrigley chewing gum hasn't offering for 29 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.400 a safer turn back to Long Beach, hoping for no pirates, Mexican drug 30 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:39.520 cartel banana boats and especially Persian shipping counters. Oh, back to reality. 31 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.240 This week I went to Santa Catalian Island, thirty two miles off the coast 32 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.520 of southern California. Last month I went for a day excursion, bringing my 33 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:52.400 bicycle to toward the main city on the island, Avalon, and the surrounding 34 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.960 countryside. This week I returned to Catalina to Christ and I returned to scuba 35 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:01.919 diving, a sport I have not participated in for almost ten years now. 36 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:07.319 Santa Catalina Island is part of the Channel Islands in eight island archipelago just off 37 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.360 the coast of southern California, from San Diego to Santa Barbara. The Channel 38 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.719 Islands, and specifically Catalina, are probably about as close to the Mediterranean that 39 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.639 most of us are gonna get. I haven't been to Greece or the Mediterranean 40 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.599 yet, but everything I know about Greece or the men are from pictures, 41 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.479 videos and, believe it or not, a video game called assassin's creed Odyssey. 42 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:34.039 Side note, I bought assassin's creed Odyssey on steam specifically for its history 43 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:37.759 mode, which allows you to walk around ancient Greek cities, temples, monument 44 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:43.159 statues, mythology and other treasures and experience them just as they look thousands of 45 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.199 years ago. Even the people are walking around dressed as they were walking about 46 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:52.680 their daily business, from nobles to slave. Speaking of historical matters, there 47 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:57.919 are some absolutely fascinating history associated with Santa Catalina and the Channel Islands as a 48 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:03.439 whole. For example, the islands were inhabited approximately thirteen thousand years ago by 49 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:08.800 descendants of the shoemash and Tonga Native Americans, and that's just the folks we 50 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:14.240 know about. The islands provide the earliest evidence of human seafaring in the Americas, 51 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:18.240 as humans traveled across the channel between Santa Barbara and the Channel Islands. 52 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:23.639 The channel islands are also the site of the earliest paleontological evidence of humans in 53 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:28.720 North America. Believe it or not, the remains of a thirteen thousand year 54 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.959 old human being, u the Ar Arlington Springs Man, were found in nineteen 55 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:36.399 fifty nine and, going with the continued theme of Ancient History on Santa Catalian 56 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:42.160 Island, these remains were determined to be the oldest human remains discovered in North 57 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.839 America so far, right here in so cal. Now I'm not sure what 58 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.279 the climate was like in so call thirteen thousand years ago, but it must 59 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:54.040 have been good enough, like it was in ancient Greece, for people to 60 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:59.040 settle here. Another amazing historic historical story on the Channel Islands was a woman 61 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.439 named Wannamer yea. She has better known in history as the lone woman of 62 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:08.160 San Nicholas Island, although she was given the name Wuanna Maria just before her 63 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:13.000 death after being baptized Catholic. Her real name is tragically lost to history. 64 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:19.079 Her tribe tragically was massacred by Russian Sea Otter hunters in in eighteen fourteen and 65 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:24.839 she lived alone on the island, all by herself, until eighteen fifty three 66 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.720 before she was found and removed, being taken to mission Santa Barbara. She 67 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:33.279 was the last native speaker of the Nicolino language. Imagine that, eighteen fourteen, 68 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:39.040 eighteen fifty three, all by yourself on an island. Just crazy. 69 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.639 I don't think Tom Hanks says anything on that. Scott o'dell's award winning children's 70 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:47.639 novel island of the Blue Dolphins is based on her true story, a fantastic 71 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:51.920 book I still remember reading in fourth grade. Of This Day. The first 72 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:57.800 European to set foot on the island was the fame Spanish explorer Wander Rodriguez Cabrill 73 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.800 Cabrio. The Spanish the islands for fishing and agriculture, and the U S 74 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:06.319 military used it for training, weapons testing and strategic defensive locations, particularly during 75 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:11.279 World War Two. All these southern islands. Southern Islands were put under military 76 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.160 control during World World War Two as a buffer against any potential Japanese attack, 77 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:19.879 and tourism was halted on Santa Catalina until the conclusion of the war. People 78 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:24.800 still live on Santa Catalina. During that time, but they needed special passes 79 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:29.240 to go to the mainland and back. Essentially, Santa, or say San 80 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.319 Clemente Island, was actually used to train the navy's first amphibious assault force in 81 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:38.160 preparation for the island hopping campaigns and eventual victory in the Pacific. And even 82 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.160 today the U S Navy Control San Nicholas and San Clement the islands, including 83 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:47.519 navy seal training centers. But the main investors that made Santa made the island 84 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:53.319 what it is today. Was William Wrigley Jr a chewing gum and Chicago cubs 85 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:58.600 fame. After buying out nearly every shareholder of Catalina, Wrigley invested millions and 86 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.040 it needed different structure and attract is including the famous Catalan and casino. And 87 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.519 we're talking millions back in the twenties. That's quite a bit of change, 88 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:11.199 even for you know, a rich person. Chicago cubs then use the island 89 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.920 for spring training between eighteen or between ninete to nineteen fifty one. Since their 90 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.639 owner has such a beautiful island with fantastic around weather, Catalina has been a 91 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:25.600 local hangout for decades, with regularly scheduled steamship service transporting average show and famous 92 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:30.120 celebrity to the island. Maryland Marylyn Monroe lived here for a time, along 93 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.959 with other famous golden age of Hollywood actors such as Charlie Chaplin, Norma Shear, 94 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:42.079 Irvin Thalberg, Richard Arlen and Johnny Wisemuller. In nineteen seventy five, 95 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.720 Wriggley son and then current owner Philip Wrigley, neededand on thirty five acres of 96 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:51.519 the land of land to the Catalan island conservancy. A nonprofit land trust that 97 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:58.319 the Wrigley family had it helped set up. This gave control of nearly Catalina 98 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:03.120 to the nonprofit, which still controls the majority of the island today. The 99 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.279 Island is home to five native land mammals, including some that are found nowhere 100 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.519 else on earth, including the island Fox, a subspecies of the California Ground 101 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.720 Squirreld, the Cattle Catalan island harvest mouse, the Santa Catalana island deer mouse 102 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.920 and the ornate shrew. American Bison live here as well, but they are 103 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:22.319 not native to the island. They were brought here from the mainland in the 104 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.040 Nineteen Twenties and Nineteen Thirties for a movie. Currently there's a herd of a 105 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:30.079 hundred fifty and they are highly popular with tourists. That can be viewed on 106 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:35.519 tours of the inland countryside. Other native, just say other non native species, 107 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.600 including that live on the island include the Bullfrog, ferirale cats, mill 108 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.399 deer rats and the common starling. The waters surrounding the island are home to 109 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.960 California State Marine Fish, the Garibaldi so whether scuba diving store planks standing near 110 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.360 the shore are just getting off the ferry at the port of Avalon, it's 111 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:58.240 virtually impossible to miss seeing these bright orange giant goldfish looking fish in the water, 112 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.240 and they are the Garibaldi when you're at the port. If you come 113 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.200 to Santa Kenally, take a look down between the docks. They'll be there, 114 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.159 I promise. Other marine wildlife include the cow h include the California sheep 115 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:18.519 head, Leopard Sharks, White Sea Bass, yellowtail bat rays, giant Black 116 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.720 Sea bass and yes, they are giant Great White Sharks, California Sea Lions 117 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:28.960 and harbor seals. So far I think I've seen all these marine animals in 118 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.159 the ocean except the Grit White. And let me tell you, if you 119 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:37.000 haven't had the chance to see a giant but largely gentle nearly Volkswagen bug sized, 120 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.720 giant sea bass appearing out of the Milky Ocean, abyss, you're missing 121 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:50.240 out. It's quite the incredible experience. Santa Catalan island is another unique feature 122 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.879 that adds to so CAL's world famous alert. But since it's thirty two miles 123 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.159 off the coast of soacal in the Pacific, how on Earth do you get 124 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:01.000 there? The two main ways to reach Santa Catli the island or by boat 125 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.120 or by air. While there is no longer scheduled passenger service to the island, 126 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.279 the modern Santa Catalian airport is open to the public and allows for private 127 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.519 and commercial aircraft to land. The airport features restrooms, a restaurant and a 128 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.720 gift shop. Passenger helicopter companies can still provide daily, on demand round trip 129 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:22.279 service from various socal cities to Catalina forty nine dollars one way, and trips 130 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.480 are much faster at fifteen minutes. That's not a bad price for saving two 131 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:31.320 to three hours of your time when by ship, when you include weight waiting 132 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:37.120 to board, boarding the Lais or Andy Boarding your own private helicopter to the 133 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.200 island. Just make sure, and this is a requirement as a listening to 134 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.759 this podcast, if you go on the helicopter, Um, basically excursion over 135 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.519 to the island, that you play your journey to the island theme song from 136 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:58.320 theme song from Jurassic Park, and don't forget that dramatic card of the song 137 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:03.399 where you're landing as well. Alright, so soon enough you'll see the island 138 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:07.120 and make your way to the airport for landing. Correction and the actually the 139 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.440 helicopters land over near the SOCAL Edison plan which actually is much closer to uh 140 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.919 than if you were taking a private plane over to the island. But if 141 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.480 you're not special guest with Dr Hammond or rig or Msterically to Catalina, you'll 142 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:26.799 probably be traveling by sea. Ferry services conveniently available from several ports along our 143 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.399 coast and takes between seventy and ninety minutes. Two main ferry companies are Catalan 144 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:35.799 express and Catalan a flyer. Really unique names, Huh, but this isn't 145 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.759 your large, slow ship, you know, England to France or Washington State, 146 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:45.559 island hopping ferry style ship you're thinking of. You know those ones that 147 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:50.120 go like ten. Both cattlean express and Catalan the flyer operate high speed catamarans 148 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.279 that can see hundreds of people. They feature airline cabin style seating with large 149 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.919 panoramic windows, outdoor and upper deck seating, ample restrooms and a full bar 150 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:05.120 are that also sells soft drinks, coffee and snacks. Catalina Flyer only operates 151 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.919 out of Newport beach in central Orange County and often has group on deal. 152 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.559 So keep an eye out if you're actually headed to Catalina. cattling express, 153 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.279 on the other hand, operates out of more ports, including San Pedro, 154 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.960 Long Beach and data point, with their biggest departure report being long beach. 155 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.559 The experience for both companies as large as the same. They both operate purpose 156 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.360 built high speed ferry ships. The most important thing to note on either ferry 157 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:31.240 service is do not buy your tag tickets last minute. It's highly likely these 158 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.000 tickets will sell out even weeks before departure, especially on weekends holidays. Then, 159 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.200 in the summer on cattle and express, round trip per person ferry service 160 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.440 between Long Beach and avalon cattle INA's main city, including taxes and fees, 161 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.480 will cost adults twelve and fifty four seventy six fifty for seniors, fifty five 162 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.159 plus sixty eight dollars for children under twelve and six dollars fifty cents per infants 163 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.559 under two. Catalina Express also offers a digital upgrades as well. Bringing bicycles 164 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.120 are surf or it will cost you an additional seven dollars per item. Or 165 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.440 you can upgrade to the Commodore Lounge, which will cost an additional forty bucks. 166 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:11.200 The Commodore Lounge is kind of like business class. It basically offers lounge 167 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.559 lounge seating or it basically offers priority check in and boarding leather trim seating. 168 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:22.240 Their clients a private lounge with more space, complementary beverages and package snacks served 169 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.279 by attendance. Then, if you're looking for something really special, it was 170 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:31.080 also the captain's lounge, and that costs an additional hundred and twenty and essentially 171 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:37.679 your own private state room featuring pre boarding, privileges for complementary beverages and plus 172 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.759 sheeting. And really, if you're gonna do this, it's best used as 173 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:46.279 a group. As additional fuel accommodate between six s eight passengers. If you're 174 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.919 in steerage, like I typically am, expect to be sitting next to strangers 175 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.240 packed in like sardines and as they try to basically fill every single seat on 176 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.519 the boat for Calian Express, it should be noted that only two pieces of 177 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.919 luggage are permitted and they must be in inches by thirty seven and wait, 178 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.320 no more than fifty pounds, excluding one carry on. But if you're diving 179 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:09.159 on Cattlein as I did, you know that's not gonna fly. So they 180 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.200 will I to bring an additional dive tank and weight belt or bag in addition 181 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.360 to the maximums. Let's have a quick chat about Cattlean Flyer now, because 182 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.399 they only operate out of Newport beach, so you're less likely to be taken 183 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:28.960 this ferry, but it should still be considered between Cattlean a express and flyer. 184 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.440 I actually found that Cattlean a flyer is my favorite way to go, 185 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.559 and one thing that sets the flyer apart from the express was the fact that 186 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.480 the captain and crew were only all too happy to point out marine life on 187 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.919 the crossing over. At least on my trip that was the case. I 188 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.279 think some of Em ploy the employees work out a Davy Jones locker next door 189 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.759 which does well tours and deep sea fishing, so expect them to point out 190 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.080 some of the bigger marine life cruising through the channel, and that includes bottlenof 191 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:58.200 dolphins, bottlenose dolphins, Pacific white sided dolphins, rizos dolphins, gray wells, 192 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.519 blue whales, fin whales, mean wells and, if you are especially 193 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:05.240 lucky, and tragically most of us are not, Orcas, also known as 194 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:11.000 killer wells. Um It's a smaller company with a crew based on one ship, 195 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.240 so it felt a little more intimate. I also enjoyed their offerings at 196 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.919 snack bar a little better personally. And, best of all, they are 197 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:22.639 actually a little cheaper. Round trip per adult is seventy eight dollars. Seniors 198 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:24.919 are sixty plus at seventy three dollars, children three to twelve or sixty one 199 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.519 dollars, infants under three or fourteen dollars, and you can bring bicycles on 200 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.799 board for twenty dollars. And, most importantly, like I mentioned, they 201 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:37.440 do often have group on deals which cuts the price almost in half, so 202 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.000 keep an eye out for that. If you're looking to go to Catalina, 203 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.480 be advised there is no special lounge or stateroom on the cattle in a flyer. 204 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.559 For additional cost, though, the cattle in a flyer flyer can and 205 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:52.159 often does see six people. So you know, prepared a board with the 206 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.080 expectation that you're going to be packed. I guess slade, can you know 207 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.360 six hundred people on board. It's also highly advised to arrive about an hour 208 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.480 four, departure even earlier if you want first choice and seating. If you 209 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.759 arrive thirty minutes or even forty minutes before departure. You may you may not 210 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.960 get to see what you want because there's gonna be a huge line. Also, 211 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.320 if you're gonna bring a bicycle, make sure you go to the window 212 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.080 and check in. They have to give you a special little tag. I 213 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.159 waited in line. I I out there about an hour early and I waited 214 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.399 in line and UH, some guys coming around and he was like, Hey, 215 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.080 you gotta go go back to the window and get a tag or you 216 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.759 can't board. So I lost my place in line. I went to the 217 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:37.279 very back Um, and that sucked. So, if you're bring a bicycle 218 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.000 to catal into the bike around, make sure you go straight to the window, 219 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.879 um, even if you already got your tickets on your email. Um, 220 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.559 and then get get this this dumb little tag. It hangs from your 221 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.879 handlebars that looks like you can just buy it on Ebay for fifty cents and 222 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.679 uh, you'll be able to save your spot in line that way. Um. 223 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:02.519 Now, regarding the crossing between the mainland inside of Catalina, I also 224 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.720 like to sit outside and enjoy the ocean, but it can really be chilly 225 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.279 on early morning crossings, even in the summer, and certainly in the winter. 226 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.519 So if you want to see inside one of the main cabins, you 227 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:17.039 will definitely want to arrive early. Even when I went last week, there's 228 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.799 people with hoodies on and jackets because it was just the wind was just kind 229 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:25.519 of made it cold. Um some seats inside actually have tables, you know, 230 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.200 where it's easier to enjoy a drink or a meal, and these are 231 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.319 usually taking the quickest. So again, get here early. If you want 232 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:34.480 one of those seats. On the Catalan Express and flyer, you'll need to 233 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:40.039 line up with your luggage and board. On the express there's a particular storage 234 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.119 room as soon as you board where you will store your bigger luggage, in 235 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.519 my case scuba diving equipment. On the Flyer, we stored most of our 236 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:49.440 big items, including bicycles, in an open space area inside the boat, 237 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.400 towards the front. So in my case I had a bike store it all 238 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.440 the way at the front where it was kind of there was no seats, 239 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:00.480 just like an open space area. Boats usually leave promptly at the designated departure 240 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.599 times and you'll usually enjoy a many harbor tour on your way out to see 241 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.279 especially if you're departing out a long beach. If you're departing out along beach 242 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.759 on one of these trips, do you not miss the famous historical Ocean Line 243 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.880 or Queen Mary? You'RE gonna want to be seated on the right side of 244 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:17.440 the boat to get the best of you, but you'll, you'll, you'll, 245 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.559 you'll basically go by pretty closely to the Queen Mary. You get to 246 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.720 see an odds glory. Um. The Queen Mary actually was recently bought by 247 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.799 the city a long beach after several failed attempts by private companies to commercialize it, 248 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.720 and it's currently undergoing expensive renovations. I'm really curious what Long Beach is 249 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.680 gonna do to try to make it profitable. But I absolutely hated what some 250 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.119 of these companies did to the ship. They didn't damage it or destroy it 251 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.799 or or ruin it in any way, but they just had stupid things like 252 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.240 like, okay, I don't know if you I don't know if you guys 253 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:52.240 believe in ghosts or not, um, but they had like a haunted tour 254 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.640 but it was, how would I explain it? It was like you got 255 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.440 to go down to the bottom where the boilers were and everything but it was. 256 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.960 It was almost like it was like being at Universal Studios or not scary 257 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.359 farm or something. Those kind of jump scared little things where they would put 258 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:14.839 like led flashing lights of of scary things going on, or or you'd be 259 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:18.039 walking in a dark hallway and they'd have these little strings hanging from the ceiling 260 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.720 that that would hit you and scare you. Jump. Scary stuff that you 261 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:25.359 would expect out of the theme park, not a not a noble crew, 262 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:30.960 you know, rolling majestic steamer Um like the Queen Mary. But anyways, 263 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:33.799 uh, we'll get around and doing a podcast on the Queen Mary once they 264 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:38.279 open again, as we will do a podcast on will watching the right to 265 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.319 stat of Cantalina takes seven or ninety minutes, as I explained, and that 266 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.519 just depends on which port you are leaving from. If you're leaving from Long 267 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.359 Beach, it's about seventy minutes H Dana point you're looking at close to ninety 268 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.440 Mintes a little bit farther away. So on last month's trip to cataline and 269 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.039 my intentions were to explore the island from its largest city, avalon, and 270 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.799 the immediate surrounding countryside. When I went back this week it was strictly a 271 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:06.680 scuba dive off the renowned Casino Point Dive Park. So I'll be dividing this 272 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:10.400 episode up by experience of if you are walking or biking around or if you're 273 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.920 coming here to dive. I'm assuming most of you guys are coming to walk 274 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:18.279 and bike and explore and maybe take a tour Um, but those of you 275 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:19.440 coming to scuba dive that haven't been there yet, you know, I got 276 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.480 a little section in here for you as well. And, by the way, 277 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:26.440 you could certainly do both. Number on the Strip. You can scuba 278 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.039 dive in the morning and explore the the city and take take a tour. 279 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.519 You know, in the afternoon, after arriving on Catalina via the ferry, 280 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.079 you can easily make the quarter while walk the quarter Mile Walk along the harbor 281 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.799 into the business district of town. Catalina easily caters to tourists, with a 282 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.799 dizzy amount of shops, restaurants, attractions, tours, rentals and other things, 283 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:49.400 depending on what you're interested in. You could certainly spend a few days 284 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.319 on the island exploring everything there is to do. There are a few beaches 285 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.559 around avalon where you can set up for a beach today and just relaxed after 286 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:03.519 the ocean, including south each Middle Beach, step beach and the Disconso Beach 287 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:06.480 Club to the north, really unique names. Huh, south, middle and 288 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:12.200 Step Uh. CATTLEAN's beaches, particularly particularly around Avalon, aren't going to be 289 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:17.519 like the huge, wide open sandy beaches that you're probably thinking of Um, 290 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.960 such as Venice or Huntington's UH. These beaches here are pretty short between the 291 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:25.880 water and the concrete walkways and don't feature very much sand and factors, often 292 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.599 rocks. Um. South beach and Middle Beach are also located along the harbor, 293 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.319 so you're do. You won't be an endless ocean horizon, but a 294 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:36.880 wide variety of boats and yachts. Lover's cove to the south also has a 295 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:41.240 lot of rocks. Those some great star Queen Um. But the beach is 296 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.519 literally step away, steps away from dining, supplies and rentals at nearby vendors. 297 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.519 It's also roped off to keep boats out, so you can be rest 298 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.759 assured that you're protected durned, swimming and other water activities. When I went 299 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.599 to cattle in a month ago, I brought my DPM imports at fifteen electric 300 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.759 bike. This beastly one thousand watt motor carried near on the island for at 301 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.559 least twenty miles, but just barely when it came to the surrounding steep hills 302 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:08.759 around avalon. If you are bringing your own bicycle, expect to work out 303 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.119 whether electric or not. You won't necessarily have to bring your own bicycle, 304 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:17.319 however, because Catalina actually offers a wide variety of rentals be a wide variety 305 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:22.119 of shops. This includes a variety of bicycles, electric bikes and golf carts. 306 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.000 In fact, you probably will not see more golf carts in one spot 307 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.240 in your entire life than right here in Avalon. Golf carts are the primary 308 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:34.839 way around for both tourists and resident and really it kind of asked to the 309 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.559 laid back resort style vibe you get here. You can have tab rent you 310 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:42.440 can have tame rentals by the hour or for the day, and there's plenty 311 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:47.920 to explore, both an avalon and the surrounding countryside, which offers incredible views 312 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.200 of the Pacific and, on a clear day, views of mainly in Los 313 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.319 Angeles and Orange County. On the flip side, you can often see Catalina 314 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.839 from the mainland in clear days, from socals endless stretch of beaches, or 315 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:03.720 from the San Gabriel Mountains and the angels national forests. Um. Really the 316 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.759 mountains cop front on the island kind of jet up pretty quickly, you know, 317 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:12.119 to uh, I think, sixteen or eight feet, so it's really 318 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:17.079 steep and once you get up there the views are just wow. Like I 319 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.480 said, this is about as close as you're probably you really do you feel 320 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:23.279 like when you come here? You feel like you are in Greece and you 321 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:29.160 just landed on a Greek island in the Mediterranean, and it really does feel 322 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.599 like that. The climate is the same, a lot of the architecture is 323 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:37.440 even the same to some point, UM, although there's kind of a Mexican 324 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.559 theme, a little bit to it, you know, uh, tile and 325 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.599 everything else, but it really does feel like like you just traveled to another 326 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:48.720 country when you come to Catalina. Um. But back to reserving. Just 327 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:53.079 like the tip on reserving early, this absolutely applies to rentals on this island, 328 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:59.039 which usually sell out on each day. Book early, weeks, early 329 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.000 as possible. Trust me on this, but we know things happen. If 330 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.240 you can obtain a rental because you booked last minute. We've all been there. 331 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:08.880 Some vendors. Some vendors do rent on a first come, first serve 332 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.799 basis. So if that's you, you know, take a look on the 333 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:18.640 websites of some of these rentals and see if you can get a spot on 334 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:22.799 the ferry as close to the door, extra door, as possible. By 335 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.559 the way, most ferries exit on the left side at the port, most 336 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.279 of them, not all of them, um. So maybe you want to 337 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.400 ask the crew and and secure a seat as quick as possible as you can 338 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:36.880 run over there and grab your rental. Otherwise considered rent consider renting an electric 339 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:41.480 bicycle on the mainland and paying extra to transport it over Um. You can't 340 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.079 beat that having your own bike. If you plan on exploring the countryside at 341 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.640 all, you will certainly have to have an electric bicycle to give you the 342 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.759 extra power ups deep pills. I think the only exception to this is if 343 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.359 you're a torty France medalist. They get out medals in Torty France. I'm 344 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.920 actually not sure, but you basically need to be in the Olympics or some 345 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.079 thing if you want to climb these hills because it is a workout. These 346 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.960 hills are steep and you will be huffing and puff and I sure was on 347 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.000 pedal assist five on my thousand water electric bike. Granted, I'm pretty out 348 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.839 of shape these days, but still, wow, lots of calories burnt. 349 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.000 There are fruit. There are a few rental shops in Avalon and example, 350 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.279 pricing for cattle on e biking. Um, if you want to run an 351 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:27.400 e bike, it basically costs. It varies, but you might get one 352 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.480 for fifty dollars for a two hour rental, sixty five dollars for a half 353 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:36.000 day and eighty dollars for a full day. You can easily explore, I 354 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.680 want to say, most of the sites within two hours or maybe a half 355 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.720 day rental. But if you want to explore every nook and cranny open to 356 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.799 you, the full day rental and maybe what you're looking for, golf court 357 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.079 golf carts, naturally, are going to be much more expensive a two hour 358 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.960 four personal golf cart rental from Cattalian Island Golf Carts, for example, because 359 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.359 a hundred twenty bucks. But there's no quicker way and an easier way to 360 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.640 get around and zip through some of the small streets and make your way at 361 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.599 all the play as you want to go and see. So give and take 362 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.759 on the pricing. It all depends on who you're at with and what you're 363 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:10.119 in besides rentals, most of Avalon and its main attractions are easily within walking 364 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:15.039 distance. Probably the only exception to this is the wriggley memorial botanical gardens and 365 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:19.920 because that's definitely a hike, about two miles uphill. Luckily, though, 366 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.359 there is a shuttle operated by the Catalian island conservancy and that can take you 367 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.759 around a different points, including the Wriggley memorial botanical gardens, and back to 368 00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.839 town. The FERRES. Two Bucks each way, not a bad deal to 369 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.279 get up to the wriggley memorial. There are also taxis on the island that 370 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.559 could whisk you away on demand to wherever you want to go. So, 371 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.799 overall, plenty of transportation options for you to choose from, even on a 372 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:49.039 small seaside town island. Speaking of the Mirgley Memorial, this is definitely a 373 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:55.200 cannot miss attraction. Located in a sheltered valley about two miles from Avalon, 374 00:26:55.359 --> 00:27:00.559 this botanical garden features acres of Channel Island nata plants, SOM of which are 375 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.880 found nowhere else on earth, and they're right here for you to view. 376 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.200 When I went here, I honestly felt like it was a quest like from 377 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:12.640 an RPG, or that that Greek example that I gave at the very beginning 378 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:17.359 this podcast. It really felt like I was on a pilgrimage to the temple 379 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:21.839 of Wrigley. I was just joking about the Greek God and Patriots State of 380 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.519 Catalan at the beginning of this episode, but that's honestly how it felt when 381 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.799 I made the Strip. There's one main path that leads past the garden straight 382 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.359 to the regular memorial, but if you have a sense of adventure like me, 383 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.839 take the side path to the left that snakes through the garden, crosses 384 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.400 over bridges, with you ducking down in many forests and along hillsides before you 385 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.240 finally reach the temple. It's not really a temple. I guess it's a 386 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.799 memorial, but once you arrive at the Wrigley Memorial you'll climb another set of 387 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:55.200 marble steps up to the wriggley memorial itself. Most of the memorial is built 388 00:27:55.279 --> 00:28:00.440 with native building material from the from Catalan island. They actually did a rock 389 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.559 quarry over it's actually a dive site over on the far south end of the 390 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:10.000 island, southeast, and that quarry is still there and it's a lot of 391 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.960 that stuff landed in the ocean and it makes for, you know, a 392 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.640 lot of tracks, a lot of animals and and reef Um. Once you 393 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.680 get to the top of the Wrigley Memorial you'll be rewarded by the journey with 394 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:26.079 an amazing view of the valley, the city of Avalon and the Pacific Ocean 395 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.279 and the distance stretching out to the mainland. It's probably one of the best 396 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.160 seats in the house. Tickets to the Wrigley Memorial and botanical gardens are ten 397 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.920 dollars for adults, five for children five to twelve, eight for seniors fifty 398 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:42.400 five plus are eight bucks for students thirteen years to college with I d after 399 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.759 you're making your way down from the Wrigley Memorial, the day is just getting 400 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:51.240 started. Any tour or any tours of trips outside the city of avalon proper 401 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:56.000 will require permission for the Catalana Conservancy. There are a lot of trails criss 402 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.960 criss crossing the island, but the longest, it's a Trans Catalina trail, 403 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:03.160 a thirty went five mile long trail that transverses the island from south to north, 404 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.720 or vice versa. There are many tours and things to do on and 405 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:10.160 around Catalina and I'm just gonna list off a couple of them here, most 406 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:15.960 of them Um starting with starting with the tourist because, just in case you 407 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.240 you want to do one of these things, I want to keep you informed. 408 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.559 So, keeping the mind that the vast majority of Catalina is wild and 409 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:30.880 open countryside and that the countryside itself is operated by the Catalan conservancy, you 410 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.000 can't simply walk or drive into the back country without permits or being part of 411 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.000 a tour. Hiking permits, luckily, though, are free based on availability, 412 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:45.960 but donations are requested. The conservancy also offers guided tykes and tours, 413 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:52.039 particularly around the Wrigley Memorial and its botanical gardens. Bike in the back country 414 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:53.759 requires a mountain bike and a pass. To obtain a bike pass, you 415 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.359 will have to join the Catalan conservanty as a member, which starts at thirty 416 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:03.119 five bucks. The CATALANA conservacy operates an ECO tour in open air jeeps that 417 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.480 will probably probably be the closest thing to drastic park. You're gonna experience Um 418 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.079 with the acception of maybe a jeep tour in Hawaii, but you'll gain access 419 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.720 to a naturalist, naturalist lad tour that will feature a trip to Catalina. 420 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.200 Uh Well, you're on Catalian a trip to parts of Catalina Um that few 421 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:25.000 really get to see. We're including secluded beaches on the west side. Along 422 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:26.559 the way. You'll learn the history, see unique plants and wildlife, some 423 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.079 of which exist nowhere else on earth, and you'll also likely have a chance 424 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:36.359 to see some of the famous Catalina Bison. So no going all the way 425 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:41.039 yellowstone for that. Come right over the CATALIAN seum. Two hour tours or 426 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.680 eighty nine dollars. Three hour tours or a hundred thirty nine dollars. It 427 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.400 tours the story Catalan a casino, the huge icon round building that sort of 428 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:56.680 looks like a colosseum, cost thirty adults, thirty one for seniors and children 429 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.599 two to eleven and, uh well, thirty five, thirty one, also 430 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.079 for children two to eleven and to and under a free. That's kind of 431 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:14.519 weird prices on one UM. Eighty two, sixteen there's a cattle and a 432 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.599 tild tour that that allows you to basically create your own cattle inspired tile and 433 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.839 take them home as a souvenir. Prices Eight, sixteen for adults. There's 434 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.359 a bison specific expedition where you'll take a basically a tour of the back country 435 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.119 looking for the fame bison, along with other wildlife such as foxes and eagles. 436 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:33.960 Um. There's also a Kayak tour to frog rock towards the sixty five 437 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.079 bucks for adults, Forty Nine for children, and they last two and a 438 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.599 half hours, including orientation and gear fitting. Did you know that fish can 439 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:47.480 fly? Did you know that fly fish called the surrounding waters of cattle in 440 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.480 a home? You could take a fifty minute tour on a purpose built boat 441 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:57.039 to find and observe these fish. Prices are for adults and discounts for seniors, 442 00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:02.559 active duty military and children are available if you prefer. You can also 443 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:06.480 get a golf cart tour of Avalon and the surrounding areas, as opposed to 444 00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.319 running out your own golf court. I will say it's nearly impossible to get 445 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:13.519 lost in Avalon, but if you want to learn the history of INS and 446 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.480 outs of this part of the island with a guided tour. Um, this 447 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:22.960 might fit your bill. I observed several guided tour stop basically where I was, 448 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.720 at the Casino Point Dive Park in between dives, and the tour got 449 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:30.119 explaining the park and the diving and basically what was going on in general. 450 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.400 Um. If you want to stay closer to the ocean, however, there 451 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.799 are plenty of things to do. There are semi submersible submarines and glass boats 452 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.680 that offer forty five minute tours of the ocean below prices for adult, children 453 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.160 three through eleven, senior Fi plus and veterans or act duty military as. 454 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.079 You also get to see marine life and kilt forest from the depths below without 455 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.680 getting wet, and, being what I know about as a dier off the 456 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.759 coast of Catalan, I will say you will see, you will actually get 457 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.920 to see marine life. They do kind of hang out in the Kelp and 458 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:06.279 pretty close to the surface and uh, you'll probably get your money's worth out 459 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.839 of those tours. There's a zip line course here that features five separate zip 460 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.880 lines along with an obstacle course in the sky. Duration is two hours and 461 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:16.559 fifteen minutes and costs a hundred forty eight dollars and forty nine cents. It's 462 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:20.240 weird to have some of these prices include the stands. I know it's probably 463 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.480 because of the Catalina basically admission tax and a couple of the different La county 464 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.880 taxes, but it's just weird that they don't just round it up. parasailing 465 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.839 will cost you sixty nine for a six foot flight and seventy nine dollars for 466 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.319 it for an eight hundred foot flight for anyone six and up. But if 467 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.440 you're terrified of heights you can simply ride along on the boat for bucks. 468 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:46.440 Guided snorkeling off the coast of the Casino Point Dive Park is sixty dollars for 469 00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:51.359 two hours. With so much to do on Catalina, there are plenty of 470 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.039 overnight options available to you, from camping to quaint dead and breakfast is too 471 00:33:54.680 --> 00:34:00.160 full service four star hotels. Camping is available on Cattlinga through permit by the 472 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:04.359 cattle in a nature conservancy. There is a large campground near Wrigley Memorial and 473 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.519 Botanical Gardens, as well as a dozen and so backcountry campsites, some of 474 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.679 which are located in near Coes on the secluded western side of the island. 475 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.960 Campsite prices vary based on location in timing, so check with the Nature Conservancy 476 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.880 for the latest prices. And, as always, you surely know the running 477 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.639 theme on the podcast here by now. Book early. If you are doing 478 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.960 anything in so cal, including pitching a tent on a primitive, secluded island 479 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:36.239 campsite, you know pretending your Tom Hanks in castaway, book early for that 480 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:42.159 experience. Regarding dining, I have dined at three locations and Catalina so far, 481 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.119 technically four, but I cannot remember the first place I eat for the 482 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.519 life of me, so we're just gonna go with three. The first place 483 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.119 I ate at was original Jack's country kitchen, which is right. All these 484 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:59.199 places are right on the main boardwalk, basically by the beach um in town, 485 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.000 but original Jack's country kitchen offers breakfast and lunch options. On last month's 486 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.239 trip I had a cheeseburger FRY, soda and a bottle of water, which 487 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.480 ran me thirty five dollars and seventy cents, including tip. On this week 488 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.079 scuba diving trip, I dined at L Galium Gallium, which is a sailing 489 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:21.639 ship themed restaurant Um. I had the Irish Nachos, two traditional TAP Burgers, 490 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.920 or just tat Burger Fry, soda and a bottle of water, and 491 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:31.760 this, with tip, ran me fifty four and two cents. Finally, 492 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.880 no trip to Catalian island is complete without a trip to scoop's ice cream, 493 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.519 whose motto is you can't buy happiness, but you can buy ice cream, 494 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:44.519 and that's pretty much the same thing. They have a large variety of ice 495 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.679 cream and and Gelato and they offer it and, I guess, a variety 496 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:53.440 of options. You can have cups, cones, Waffle Bulls, Um this. 497 00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.719 This location, though, is so popular that they usually have a line 498 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.559 out the door and basically down the boardwalk to get in, but definitely worth 499 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.760 it. Fantastic ice cream. So probably some of the best you're gonna have. 500 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.119 Um Ice Cream here averages about five or six bucks of scoop. Scoop's 501 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.320 ice cream also features a variety of popular starbucks licensed coffee if you are a 502 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:21.360 starbucks addict. Um. So on Catalina. Catalina is an incorporated city in 503 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.480 Los Angeles County and has a full time, year round basically people living here, 504 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.920 as well as weekenders or people that just have rental homes. As such, 505 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:37.119 it has a full service grocery store, hardware store, Sheriff's Department, 506 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.639 Substation, Fire Department, so cal Edison, water desalination, de Stalinization and 507 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.880 power plant, trash pickup and or other normal city operations that keep the island 508 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:52.559 in safe, tip top shape for both resident and tourist the lake. WHO. 509 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.159 All right, so, as previously stated, this week I returned to 510 00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.239 Catalan Catalan island to scuba dive. Get a little cotton mouth here after the 511 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.800 thirty six minutes in the podcast so far, but nothing shot of water can't 512 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:14.320 fix. All right. So scuba diving. There's plenty more too. Um. 513 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:16.199 There's plenty more to scuba diving than I can go over in a single 514 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.679 podcast. That's why there's a whole course on it, but I'm gonna go 515 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.559 over some basics. Um, allow me, if you will, to start 516 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.400 by going over some of the equipment we use in scuba diving real quick, 517 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.599 since I we'll be talking about scuba diving jargon for the rest of the podcast 518 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:37.239 here. So first there's your mask. The mask creates an air pocket in 519 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.760 front of your eyes, which allows them to see clearly underwater. Your Snorkel 520 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.280 is also part of your equipment and, even though you're using compressed air to 521 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.159 breathe underwater, if you surface and have a long swit swim back to the 522 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:51.880 beach or boat um it can be helpful to save air or you might be 523 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.960 just low on air, so having the Snorkel Handy will let you basically just 524 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:58.599 swim on the surface back to where you need to get where you need to 525 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.360 be. Your BC, which stands for buoyancy control device, is a large 526 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:07.639 vest or life jacket shaped backpack. This holds a lot of your gear, 527 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.320 such as your tank regulator, pressure gauges, dive weights and other items such 528 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.119 as flashlights and dive knives. Most importantly, though, your B CD fills 529 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.719 up with air on demand from your scuba tank or releases air from its bladder 530 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.800 at the push of a button, so that you can obtain that all important 531 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:29.400 neutral buoyancy. Neutral buoyancy means that you neither sink nor sand when underwater, 532 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.119 but you can basically control going up or down or side to side by pointing 533 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.400 yourself in the direction you want to go and kicking with your fins. Your 534 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.039 Scuba tank is attached to the B C d. These come in a variety 535 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:44.599 of sizes and material as well as different air types such as oxygen and nitrous. 536 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.320 Attached to your scuba tank are a series of air tubes lovingly called the 537 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.400 octopus. These feature your main regulator, your backup a regulator, a connection 538 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.960 for your BCD to receive air and a gauge that, at minimum, will 539 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.039 display how much air you have. Most cages, how here are part that 540 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.800 are part of a typical octopus set up. Include other information such as depth, 541 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.480 depth gage, compass and even dive computers built right in. Depending on 542 00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.880 where you are diving, you might also wear a wetsuit, wet suits coming 543 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.159 different thickness, going all the way up to a dry suit for diving and 544 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:21.119 freezing conditions. If diving in tropical locations, such as my favorite tropical location 545 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:25.159 in the Bahamas, you'll often need just the pair of swim trunks. Typically, 546 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.480 off the coast of so cal, we dive in seven millimeter thick wet 547 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.360 suits. In the summer we can often get away with three millimeter, five 548 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.480 millimeter, depending on ocean temperature. Um so in the winter, gloves and 549 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.199 a hood in addition to your wet suit become necessary. As humans, we 550 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.760 really aren't designed to swim through the water like mermaids Um so we wear fins 551 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.880 would help you propel quickly through the water, as long as you learn to 552 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.119 kick right with them. There's a there's a method of the madness, essentially, 553 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.239 on how to propel yourself through the water with fins. Fins. Most 554 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.679 people do it wrong with first time, but you're usually taught in an open 555 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.800 water class how to do it properly, because we naturally float in water. 556 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.719 On top of the B C D wet suit and compressed air which all which 557 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.079 float, divers actually have to put on dive weights for the ability to go 558 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.480 below the surface. Dive weights need to be fine tuned to the diver and 559 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:20.039 their equipment. I, for example, have a pack or have to pack 560 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.039 on a healthy thirty two extra pounds of weight before my head will actually sink 561 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.840 below the waves, and sometimes more. Weights are usually attached to a quick 562 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.079 RELEA stight belt or inserted into a B C D itself with a quick pull 563 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.880 mechanism to dump your weights in the event you need to get to the surface 564 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:39.400 now for survival and deal with the potential decompression sickness later. Um, that 565 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:43.400 that could be a little intimidating too, because when you're walking on the surface, 566 00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:45.559 let's say you're on a dive boat and you put on all your equipment, 567 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:52.199 you are heavy. You would just like you feel like you a if 568 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:53.760 you if you never dove before and you're wearing all this. It's like putting 569 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.840 on a ton of weight and getting ready to jump in the water. What 570 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.199 do you think is gonna Happen? It's like, uh, it's like the 571 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.920 mafia put some cement shoes on you. It's about to dump you over the 572 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.719 side. You're you're gonna think, you know if you probably until the first 573 00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:13.719 time you go on a pool the train. You'RE gonna think I'm gonna sink 574 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.480 all over the bottom, I'm gonna drown. That's not the case at all. 575 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.039 All that extra the B C d, The wet suit, your body, 576 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.920 your tank, it's actually gonna float you up. It's heavy on the 577 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:30.400 surface. Once you get in the water it's incredible weightlessness. Um, but 578 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.119 worst case scenario, if the weights are holding you down and you need to 579 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.880 get to the surface, most divers, and you should be doing this, 580 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:45.119 have basically quick release ability. Basically the ability to dump the weights in a 581 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.639 hurry and get to the surface, which could cause medical problems later, but 582 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:53.079 obviously oxygen comes first in this case. Um also, I consider a good 583 00:41:53.119 --> 00:42:00.800 dive nice absolutely mandatory equipment on any dive. But a dive knife is not 584 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:06.280 there to fight off jaws or Russian spits, NAS divers and filtrating Laguna Beach. 585 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.000 The dive knife of the dive knife is there to cut your way out 586 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:14.639 of an otherwise fatal situation, such as fishing line. Fortunately, I have 587 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.400 never been stuck in a fishing line underwater, but I have been caught up 588 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.000 and kelt before. Luckily for me, Kelp is easily to it is easy 589 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.440 to break off and for yourself. As much as I hate destroying kelp when 590 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:29.679 I can't easily untangle myself, it beats fighting in underwater and potentially panicking over 591 00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:35.199 it. Finally, there's a trusty dive watch, probably one of the most 592 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:39.159 expensive items on the scuba gear here. This device displays a number of important 593 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.519 data points during your dives, such as your depth, water temperature, dive 594 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.119 time and Dyel time, which is how long you should die before needing a 595 00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.519 safety stop before reaching the surface. To prevent you from getting a decompression, 596 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.320 sickness and more Um, optional accessories include cameras, flashlights or done se Gere, 597 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.280 etcetera. Now, scuba diving is not for everyone. I know many 598 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.519 people have a fear of open water or being dozens of people of the surface 599 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.239 with your only lifeline being a high pressure gas cylinder under back. Some people 600 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:14.440 fear sharks or other potentially dangerous sea life in the ocean. I know if 601 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.559 you search for shark attacks diver or diver fights off shark on Youtube right now 602 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.400 there are plenty of videos that seemed to reinforce this notion that the film jaws 603 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:28.840 was simply a public service announced me by Steven Spielberg to give back to the 604 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:36.559 community and save as many lives as possible. Well, it's not. Jaws 605 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:45.239 is a complete, full, complete h work of fiction. Most of you 606 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.079 probably know that. But Um, that movie terrorized the whole generation of people 607 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.280 and maybe that's why scoopad hyping take off. Until you know, much later. 608 00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:01.639 Um, but if you haven't googled shark attacks diarry yet, when you 609 00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:07.480 do, I want you to notice something about virtually each video you're witnessing. 610 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.920 What are the divers doing when the shark comes out and starts acting aggressive? 611 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:15.719 And I don't mean what are the divers doing something wrong? I mean what 612 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:22.280 sub activity in diving are they participating in? Are they allegedly diving to explore 613 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:29.239 coral or documentcy life, or are they spear fishing? The answer is spear 614 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:36.639 fishing. I have watched dozens and dozens and dozens of these videos and almost 615 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.440 in every single video they were spear fishing. Now, spear fishing creates some 616 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.400 blood in the water, obviously, and that sharks have just an absolute incredible 617 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.079 sense of smell for blood Um, which is why you know when you're when 618 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.519 when people are fishing for shark or they're they're trying to attract sharks for whatever 619 00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:58.440 reason, that they're a chum in the water and that brings the sharks out 620 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:04.079 pretty quick Um. So the sharks are drawn to the fish and the blood 621 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.840 and they're not trying to kill the diver. They just want an easy lunch 622 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:13.280 of fish. That means the shark is not attacking the human, is it? 623 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.360 Yes, there are exceptions, as always, but while you're at it, 624 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.320 why don't you search for some of the other so called bloodthirsty killers in 625 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.199 the ocean. Um, search for, I don't know, search for divers, 626 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.639 ones with great white shark or diving with killer wells. You might be 627 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.039 surprised at how gentle these creatures really are when they are not confused as to 628 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.719 whether you are a, let's say, a surfer around on the surface and 629 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.639 an all black wet suit, looking like a seal or something else. Um. 630 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.960 The few attacks that do occur often mistaken identity, as most sharks typically 631 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.000 have poor eyesight. Seriously, folks, Steven Spielberg, for always being scared 632 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.639 the crap out of a lot of people. Um, and we as divers 633 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.639 have a lot of work. Did you show people that it's safe to get 634 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.639 into the water? Keep in mind I'm not a marine biologist. Feel free 635 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:59.960 to fact check the fall on this podcast. Do a couple of Google searches 636 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.440 so or Youtube video searchs if you want. Um, I think you'll find 637 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.239 it's accurate. Granted, also, I'm a fairly new diver with only twenty 638 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.559 dives under my weight belt, but I've met plenty enough senior scuba divers, 639 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.840 including the famous Doctor Bill Bushing, to know that scuba diving, if the 640 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.960 proper training and precautions are calculated. Is a very safe sport. All that 641 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.920 said, things can and do go wrong, just like any equipment dive. 642 00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:30.239 Equipment does fail or other hazards in the water can create problems. And just 643 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.800 like any scenario or training, UM, when you do an open water dive 644 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.159 classroom or beyond, you will go through training scenarios and what to do if 645 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.719 things do go wrong. For every problem that can occur, there's always a 646 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.159 solution in this in the in scuba diving, for starters, the overwhelming vast 647 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:52.119 majority of scuba divers use the buddy system, and that includes me. This 648 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.119 solves the vast majority of problems immediately because you have a buddy there that can 649 00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.719 help you untangle you Um, give you some spare air get to the surface. 650 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.119 Um Buddy system is very important. Some people do practice solo diving, 651 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:14.480 but I would say us do do buddy diving. So if you're regulator regulator 652 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:20.639 fails. So if you're regulator fails, the part that divers put in their 653 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.760 mouth to breathe oxygen, then you have a backup regulator of standard equipment on 654 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:30.400 the octopus. If your oxygen tank stops giving oxygen for some freak accident. 655 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.159 Reason, you share used in the buddy system with your your buddy spare regulator. 656 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.880 If something happens to you in the water where you become incapacitated or, 657 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.840 like I said earlier, you get stuck in some kind of line, uh, 658 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.320 your buddy is trained to bring you to the surface or cut you free. 659 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.679 Patty, along with other dive training organizations, prepare each diver with the 660 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.519 basic skills needed in the classroom and a pull before they cut you loose in 661 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.960 the ocean. For example, if you're if your mask floods with water, 662 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.400 as mine typically does, with a mustache, you'll learn how to clear the 663 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:08.400 mask and do it underwater. It's easier than you might think. If your 664 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.519 regulator gets knocked out of your mouth, let's say your buddy accidentally kicks it 665 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.880 out while he's trying to swim away from you and it swings behind you where 666 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.480 you can't reach. And Trust me, when you have all this gear on, 667 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.360 the B C D and everything, you cannot reach behind you. So 668 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:28.199 if that regulator reaches behind you, or let's just say swings behind you, 669 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.280 uh, it's not a death sentence. There is a process for leading to 670 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.920 your side and retrieving it with a scoop method and it works every time. 671 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.360 There's also a whole host of utter underwater dive signals you'll learn, since you 672 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:44.719 can't talk underwater. Thumbs up means it doesn't mean you're good, it means 673 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.599 let's go to the surface. The okay symbol with your thumb and index finger 674 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.440 means you are good. Other underwater communications include danger, something is wrong. 675 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:58.320 How much air do you have, or the all important out of air need 676 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.719 to share. In the end, only you can make that determination if it's 677 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:07.440 right for you or what you're comfortable with. ME, for example, I 678 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:14.679 will absolutely never, ever, not for fifty dollars or otherwise, ever cave 679 00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:21.679 dive ever, and I also won't dive any further than a fet, preferring 680 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:25.559 to stay usually around sixty FT in most cases. Um in either situation, 681 00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:30.239 I am just not comfortable with not having immediate access to the surface should I 682 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.559 need it. And those do you think that I'm crazy for scuba diving. 683 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.559 I feel the absolute the same way about those that cave dive. No offense 684 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.800 you cave divers out there at all, but sometimes going, you know, 685 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.840 in a cave for miles and miles on end, with no hope or recourse 686 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.840 if something goes wrong in the middle of a dive. That's just not for 687 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.599 me. That first time I jumped off a boat in the sixt of open 688 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.920 water with nothing but a classroom and Um, with nothing but classroom and eight 689 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.039 foot poll time. Um, I was really intimidated, for sure. It 690 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:06.239 was just one of those barriers that you have to one of those fears you 691 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.480 have to face and overcome, man and you can do it and people do 692 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:14.599 it every day. But once you do it there's often no going back. 693 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.000 Um. Scuba diving is a magical experience, especially if you are interested in 694 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.960 marine biology or ocean or oceanography. Keeping in mind seventy percent of our earth 695 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:29.880 is water. By not scuba diving you're kind of reliated tot of the Earth 696 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:34.840 during your time here. When you really think about it, have you ever 697 00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.440 wanted to fly? I think we've all thought about that or might have had 698 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:45.400 a dream or two on flying or having the ability to fly. Scuba diving, 699 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.880 the best way I can describe it is like flying. As mentioned earlier, 700 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.280 one important skill scuba divers have is to master neutral buoyancy by calculating the 701 00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.000 correct amount of weight to take with you, along with the buoyancy of other 702 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.039 items. So there's your body, what suit and B C D or Boy 703 00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:07.280 and C control device. You Literally Obtain Zero gravity or, as we call 704 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:13.559 it in scuba diving, neutral buoyancy. With futral buoyancy mastered, I can 705 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.440 fly around or a reef, through a Kelp forest or along with other fish. 706 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:22.119 Um. Scuba divers are largely trained to leave aquatic life alone, but 707 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.320 sometimes curious aquatic life will come out and play with you. This is especially 708 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:31.480 true of California Sea Lions and even more true of young California Sea Lion pups. 709 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.079 There is a Popular Sea Lion Rock at short distance out in the ocean 710 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:42.760 that divers often like to swim to. That usually features sea lions swimming and 711 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.199 going about their day. The young PUPS and the sea lion colony are often 712 00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.760 very curious about divers, and we'll even come out and play with you. 713 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.440 By the way, this is off of the coast of Laguna Beach, I 714 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:59.440 believe, Crescent Bay Um. And by play I mean they'll try to steal 715 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.559 your stork or your fin, swim away and turn back towards you with an 716 00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.679 end's mouth. Yes, there have been documented cases of sea lions pups trolling 717 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.800 divers like this, but they're not trying to drown you, they're just trying 718 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.400 to play. They're literally playing with you. Um. Then the big intimidating 719 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.480 bull jumps in the Water and inspects you and your entourage. Usually he's just 720 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.119 making sure his pups are okay. Once he determines you're not a threat, 721 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:27.039 you know, usually all right, you know, tell us the kids to 722 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.559 be back home before the street lights come on, and jumps back up and 723 00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.239 it takes a nap. But occasionally he'll get in your face and start barking 724 00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:36.760 underwater. He won't attack you, but he'll kind of give you a hint. 725 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.719 Hey, maybe maybe you should go explore another part of the reef, 726 00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.760 you know. And Uh, I'm kind of annoyed with you guys in the 727 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.800 area right now. So you know that means it's time to head out and 728 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:50.800 leave his offspring alone for the day. It just depends on what the bull 729 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:54.039 wants. He's in charge, not you. It's his it's his colony and 730 00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:59.719 his reef. Um. Now I am a patty open water diver. However, 731 00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.480 however, because it's been so long since I last dove, I did 732 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.159 take part in something called Patty reactivate, which basically let you go through the 733 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.400 basics again in an online course and then work on skills in a pulse so 734 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.559 that you are comfortable jumping back in the ocean. This was very important as 735 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.199 there was definitely a few skill skills I was resting on that I needed to 736 00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.400 remember, as any of US would be after ten years. The most important 737 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:28.239 skill at scuba diving is not to hold your breath, but arguably the second 738 00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.800 most important skill is not to inflate your B C d going back to the 739 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:37.199 surface win resurfacing. If you add air to your BCD, you'll start to 740 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.280 rise faster and faster before shooting up like a rocket at the end as there 741 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:45.639 is less weight from the water above you. This is a horrible situation, 742 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:51.239 not because you're trying to imitate a Paul Levin, but because of decompression sickness, 743 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:53.119 or the bends, as its nickname, especially if you've been on a 744 00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:59.639 deeper dive. Um, the bend is definitely a serious medical uh. Sometimes 745 00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.400 am to see that really you need to get to a hospital and, more 746 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:10.199 more importantly, a decompression chamber to basically get you back to normal. Um, 747 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:14.199 I'll let you google decompression sickness if you want to know more about that. 748 00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.519 But it does happen to divers all the time who are ascend too quickly. 749 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:25.199 So so as a train diver you're trained to release their from your BCD 750 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:29.079 slowly as you have stand to the surface. Once you're reach the surface, 751 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.599 you can fill your BCD with there to help keep you a flow. So, 752 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:36.760 all that said, thanks for hanging with me through my mini Scuba class. 753 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.760 And I'm not an instructor, so do not this is all just for 754 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.000 entertainment purposes. But let's talk scuba diving and specifically, and finally, diving 755 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:53.400 off side of Carolina Island. Now, what's officially known as the Casino Point 756 00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:59.400 Dive Park and known to diving veterans all over southern California as the Doctor Bill 757 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.360 Bushing Ive Park, is an underwater dive park located off the coast of Catalina 758 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.199 on the north side of Avalon. The Dive Park is called the Casino Point 759 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:12.719 Dive Park because it's located next to the world famous casino building that we talked 760 00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:17.400 about a little earlier. Um, basically, if you if you Google Catalina, 761 00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.239 almost every picture will have the casino building in it, the big round 762 00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:29.519 building cow looks like your colisseum from Rome. Um. The dive park was 763 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.679 first established in nineteen sixty two and it's the first nonprofit underwater dive park in 764 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:37.519 the country, if not the world. It has a few features that make 765 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.440 it special and draws divers not just from all over the southwest but really around 766 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:46.119 the globe. I've met people from Australia here and I've seen people from England 767 00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:52.519 here. UH, just incredible. The park has a concrete and metal handrail 768 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.159 staircase that allows you quick and easy access to the water, so you don't 769 00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:59.400 have to fight the surf like you wouldn't the beach dive Um. It's also 770 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.599 buoyed off with rope to keep boats and other non non human powered vehicles out 771 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:07.400 of the out of the area is to protect the divers and snorkelers. The 772 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.719 park is about two point five acres in size and is as deep as ninety 773 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:15.039 which is large enough to do several dives without covering the same area more than 774 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.920 once. Further, because it's on Catalina and off the mainland, abundant sea 775 00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:23.280 life likes to flock to this area um because of the low surf and pllution 776 00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:28.800 free environment. Water temperature ranges from seven to seventy four degrees in the summer 777 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.800 and fifty five to fifty nine degrees in the winter, and visibility is some 778 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:36.599 of the best. And so califern diving because of the dive park and has 779 00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.800 strict laws on the taking a fish and other animals. Plants and marine life 780 00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:45.880 flock to this park in huge numbers, including giant Kelp forests. There there's 781 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.599 a little bit of something for everyone here and many students come to the dive 782 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:53.800 park as their first really as their first dive, as you know, to 783 00:56:53.840 --> 00:57:00.480 get certified as new open water divers. From Mysterious Kelp forest to rocky outcrops 784 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.119 the sandy bottoms, there really is something for all skills and abilities here. 785 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:09.320 Now we we dive not just to experience the magic of flying underwater but to 786 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:15.719 see ocean life, and there is a fantastic sampling of what you might see 787 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:20.760 anywhere and so cal off the coast if you're diving. Giant Kelp is one 788 00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.440 of the fastest growing plants on earth and it's so abundant here in areas it's 789 00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:31.159 no wonder groups of them are called and nicknamed Kelp forests. Um If you 790 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.000 ever look up photos of Kelp forests you'll see what I mean. It's just 791 00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:39.480 it's almost like a fairytale, magical experience, just swimming through a giant Kelp 792 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.239 forest with fish everywhere. Speaking of fish, if you OFFICI will see here 793 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:50.079 include the Garabaldi that we talked about earlier, which is the giant goldfish looking 794 00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:57.039 fish that is the state of California's official marine at Mammal, not mammal animal. 795 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.960 You also see Kelp Bass, which blend in almost perfectly with Kelt Senorita 796 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.280 fish, sheep, had OPALI, blacksmith molluks, nudi branches, Angel Sharks, 797 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:12.199 Bat Ray's Guitar Fish, Halibut, lobsters, abalone, octopuses, Moray 798 00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:16.320 eels and Leopard Sharks. The largest ficial she here is the star of the 799 00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:22.559 dive park itself, the giant Black Sea bass. Giant Black Sea bass can 800 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.280 get to over eight ft long and weigh as much as five sixty two pounds 801 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:30.079 and kilt forest giant sea bass. Giant Black Sea bass usual the Apex Predator. 802 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:35.440 I was fortunate enough to see a giant Black Sea bass on my eighth 803 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:39.239 dive, which was here at the dive Park Um in two thousand twelve. 804 00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:45.079 There's even four shipwrecks here and an underwater underwater plaque honoring the father of scuba 805 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:52.800 diving, Jacques Cousteau, who invented the Acoalon, which is essentially the first 806 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:59.480 open circuit scuba dive device. Scuba is short for self contained underwater. Bring 807 00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:05.320 the apple, by the way. Scuba self contained underwater breathing apparatus. If 808 00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.960 you're not sure you would like scuba diving, I would try to look for 809 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:14.599 a Tri Scuba program near you. Most Organizations Scuba later organization organizations offer some 810 00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.719 sort of some form of this in one way or the other, and basically 811 00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.519 it allows you to try scuba diving in the safety of a pool with well 812 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.239 trained dive Masters and instructors to see what it's like to be underwater and breathe 813 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.880 and see if you're comfortable with it and if you would have fun doing it 814 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:35.440 in the ocean. Um this certainly won't Allie to dive in the ocean by 815 00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:37.719 doing the Tri Scuba program but it will give you a feel for if it's 816 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.679 something you want to pursue and you know, help you save money because if, 817 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.639 obviously you're buying all the expensive equipment and gear and training and then you 818 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:50.840 get to the ocean you're like, I'm not doing this, then you can 819 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:54.199 figure it out and the try scuba program instead of out in the ocean. 820 00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:01.039 Uh, if you are certain you don't want to scuba dive Um but don't 821 01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:06.079 mind swimming in the ocean, the dive park is wide open to snorkelers as 822 01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.199 well. A shop near the dive park rents out masks, snorkels and fins 823 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.719 so that you can swim around. Because the water is so clear around the 824 01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:19.199 dive park on most days you'll be able to look down on basically everything that 825 01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.360 I can see when I scuba dive, all the flora and fauna that we've 826 01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:28.280 talked about so far above um or from above. When I went to the 827 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.800 dive park this week there were actually more snorkelers than divers, which I thought 828 01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:35.800 was pretty cool. And even though I had a diving equipment went diving. 829 01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.639 After I was finished diving, I went snorkeling for a while just for fun. 830 01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:43.679 The dive park is well patrolled by a veteran divers, most of which 831 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:47.320 are CPR and riscue certified and lifeguards and firefighters frequent, frequently stopped by, 832 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:52.119 so it's very safe and if something goes wrong, help is usually steps away. 833 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:57.800 Last thing I want to mention about the Casino Point Dive Park is is 834 01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.079 that, basically I support a grass streets effort to rename the dive park from 835 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:06.440 the Casino Point Dive Park to the Doctor Bill bushing dive park. And here's 836 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:09.079 why. I've heard about this man, the myth, the legend from various 837 01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:14.000 dive community veterans, but I actually got to meet him between dives one and 838 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.880 two on my first visit to the Casino Point Dive Park. Doctor Bill bushing 839 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:24.400 unfortunately passed away in December from cancer, but he was essentially a living legend 840 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:29.880 in the dive community. He produced a video podcast series called dive drive with 841 01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.960 Dr Bill, which is still available on his website, star thrower dot com 842 01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:37.599 s t a R T H R o w e r Dot Org. Correction, 843 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:43.559 Dot Org, starthrower Dot Org and u. He was considered a really 844 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:47.719 a world renown dive expert. His doctor it wasn't in medicine but marine ecology 845 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.400 from the University of California, Santa Barbara, and he was also an undergraduate 846 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:58.400 of Harvard University. I mean this guy have been scuba diving for so long, 847 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.639 in fact before scuba diving was even really a thing, and his only 848 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:08.480 instructions when he got in the water was one line, don't hold your breath. 849 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:15.400 He dove and film not just with diving pioneers like Richard C Murphy, 850 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:21.239 Dr Sylvia Earle, Dr Milton loved, Dr Guy Harvey and Marine Artists Wiland, 851 01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:27.119 but even the son of the father of diving off together, Um Jean 852 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:34.119 Jean Mitchell Zakasto, Sekasto. Sorry, I'm trying to I don't speak French, 853 01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:37.760 Rabel, but his son, the father of diving. He lives in 854 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:43.119 Santa Barbara, uh, the father of modern diving, and he was really 855 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.880 good friends with them and always went diving with him all the time. I 856 01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:51.280 just checked his before this podcast. I checked Dr Bills Um dive lot record, 857 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:57.159 which numbers living thirty six hundred dives, the vast majority of which were 858 01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.760 in Catalian Island, and the vast majority of that we're at the dive park 859 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:07.400 where I went. He literally, not figuratively, literally, devoted his entire 860 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.840 life through the ocean, specifically between organisms and their environment, environmental management and 861 01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:15.400 the ecological restoration of regions impacted by human activity. The least we can do 862 01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:21.239 to honor Doctor Bill is renamed the Casino Point Dive Park to the Doctor Bill 863 01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:25.119 bushing dive park, where he would have dove thousands of times. Um, 864 01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:29.639 where he did dive thousands of times and he would have dope dove thousands of 865 01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:32.119 times more if he if he had the ability to. At this point. 866 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:37.079 Um, he was there all the time. He educated thousands of divers, 867 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.440 from students to veterans, on its shore. Uh. Photos will be on 868 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.599 the website, by the way, one in scale dot com. Um, 869 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:49.239 I'll have photos of him and uh, of me getting to meet him. 870 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:54.519 Um. So final thoughts here on my most recent trip to Catalina. If 871 01:03:54.519 --> 01:04:00.239 you live in socall and you have not visited yet, it's absolutely worth at 872 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:03.400 a day trip of your time. But you can easily stretch out of Catalina 873 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.760 trip into a few days. If you don't live in so callenda just visiting, 874 01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:11.199 you can add Sata Sada, Catalina Island, to your itinerary for a 875 01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:15.039 day. Uh. Boats usually leave out there first thing in the morning. 876 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.000 They come back in the evening or if you want to come back earlier in 877 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.679 the afternoon, you can spend a whole day exploring, you know, this 878 01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:26.039 unique treasure off our coast. And there really is something for everyone here. 879 01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.119 Really, I know I say that a lot, but it's true. Here 880 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.119 it's hiking, camping, backpacking, scuba diving, snorkeling, swimming, boating, 881 01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:38.679 shopping, exploring on golf cars or bicycles, museum adventure. So give 882 01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:43.599 it a consider, all right, folks. Well, one last thing here. 883 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.960 As always, I kind of trying to like to give a hint of 884 01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:49.960 where I'm going next week. Um, I know we were a little Hollywood 885 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:55.400 heavy, so I'm happy to report that we're not. I'm not going back 886 01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.400 to Hollywood. Yeah, anyways, but I am one another little road trip 887 01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.719 and uh, I'll let this Pan Piano rendition of this famous song give you 888 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:08.320 a little hint and we'll see you in episode eight. Thanks a lot for 889 01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.960 listening, guys, and thanks for putting up through my little scuba diving class. 890 01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.719 I know I could have just basically run through what the dive park was 891 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:20.000 like and everything else, but Um, for those of you out there that 892 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:25.159 are have considered scuba diving or thought about it. Um, I want to 893 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:29.000 give you a little few basics on basically what I thought before I did it, 894 01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.679 what it was like to do to learn it and basically now, what's 895 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:35.000 it like to go do it? Um, if you want to fly, 896 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:42.079 that's one way to do it. That's it feels like you're flying when you 897 01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.840 go underwater and you obtain neutral buoyancy. All Right, folks, I'm gonna 898 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.960 let this piano rendition give you a hint of where I'm going next. See 899 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.840 you next week in episode eight and uh, see you on my road trip, 900 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:54.760 oh by now. Thanks for listening, folks. Please visit the website 901 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.800 one day in socal dot com and if you enjoyed this podcast, consider it's 902 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.480 just I mean, feel free to leave me tips and Info on how I 903 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:11.840 can improve. Thanks again. Back the blue, M H